Asia Domain Name Registration Limited - Scam
The Chinese scammers are at it again. People need to know this kind of thing is going on so they are not taken in.
-----Original Message-----
From: mike [mailto:mike@domaininasia.com]
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 8:44 PM
To: SigfreidSubject: Domain name of nielsentechDear CEO,Happy new year!We are the domain name registration organization in Asia, whichmainly deal with international company's in Asia. We have something important need to confirm with your company.On the Jan 7, 2008, we received an application formally. One company named "HuaYang Holdings Limited" wanted to register following Domain names:nielsentech.net
nielsentech.info
nielsentech.cn
nielsentech.com.cn
nielsentech.net.cn
nielsentech.asiaand Internet brand keyword:nielsentechthrough our body.After our initial examination, we found that the keywords and domain names applied for registration are as same as your company's name and trademark. These days we are dealing with it. If you do not know this company, we doubt that they have other aims to buy these domain names. Now we have not finished the registration of HuaYang company yet, in order to deal with this issue better, Please contact us by telephone or email as soon as possible.Best Regards,Mike Luo__________________________________________________________________________Sponsoring Registrar: Asia Domain Name Registration LimitedAddress: Rm 402A 4/F, China Insurance Group Building., 141 Des Voeux Road, Central, Hong KongTel：00852－30759838Fax：00852－31771520
Email: mike@domaininasia.com
Website:www.asiadnr.org
posted by (hris @ 7:18 PM
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Thanks for post, I received one just like it.
As we know, our company also met such things,but we register our domain name at last,because we are not sure whether it is a scam. And we also did some investigation in other Asia domain name register companies, all of them are use this way to remind the big companies to register their relative domain names, for emaple,in HK,Japan,Korea,China,and so on.In our opinion,we should protect our brand and domain name,and register them as soon as possible.
Hi Barbara,
Thanks for your comment.
I am sorry to say you have been ripped off. Not only is a scam to get you to pay this company for things YOU DO NOT NEED, you have also OVER PAID THEM Between 2 and 10 times, depending on what you have purchased from them.
Because of the dispute system in place, no trademark holder needs to register domains out of fear, since the law is on their site and not the scammers.
In fact, are you someone from the very company that is operating this scam? Are you so stupid that you think you can post fake message and lie about the scam you are trying to pull. Well, you have been reported to APNIC and ICANN and you and the domain registrar that you are working with will soon be in more trouble that you realize....!
Good Luck, Scammers!!!
I am so disappointed and angry for the upside reply! You suspected me and I also have the right to suspect your purpose that you pressed this message is aim to make malicious slander about the company because that is possible you or your friends also are running the Asia domain regsiter business. Of course, my blog is empty but it is just for replying your information and tell other people one thing--Always believe your own judgement.
Did you experience such things? But we met before, it is true!I just want to say that many thing are not always easily like you thought, after all you are not a company owner. By the way, If a comany need to protect their brand they will do everything to protect, if they don't need, of course, suit yourself!
Hi "Barbara",
Thanks for your comment on my blog, but you are a fake and a scam. Of this I have no doubt and that is my opinion. The blogger account you are using was just created (On Blogger Since January 2008) and I am sure it is just to try and refute what is being said about the scam emails that we have gotten. I can only think that you are part of this scam, so what you say while "hiding" only goes to prove what I say.
NO OTHER DOMAIN REGISTRAR HAS EVER CONTACTED US LIKE THIS. And when I asked for the information about the company that was trying to register our domains, I was told they could not say because they had to keep the company's information private. This sounds reasonable, until you realize that if they wanted to keep the company's information private, THEY WOULD NOT BE CONTACTING OTHER COMPANIES ABOUT THEM!
You do not know me. If you did you would know that I am a business owner, one that would never tell people something that is not true just to make a profit.
And we did just become a reseller of domains, but if you notice, I have not mentioned that fact until you brought it up. Good point though, the scam emails and your comments are sure to attract many visitors and I will have to put up some links to our domain sales site when it is ready. By the way, we will be selling domains MUCH, MUCH CHEAPER than you, about the same as MOST OTHER DOMAIN SELLERS...!
As far as protecting a trademark or domain, all one has to do is LET the other company register their domain, and then their information could be found in the WHOIS records. Once you have that, you can turn it over to your lawyers and ICANN and make them pay for what they did.
My advice to you, Barbara, if you are one of the scammers as I think you are, is to give up this misleading and dishonest marketing ploy. Lower your domain registration prices so they are NOT a rip-off as they are now, and try to run an honest business. If you can't do that, then you deserve to go out of business...
I agree, we just got the exact same e-mail from the company. This time it was Creation International Holdings Ltd that they claim tried to register different domains with our trademark. The company does exist, but I doubt they ever tried to do anything at all.
My advise: stay away from domain asia. Use another registrar to handle your domains.
I received same email as well on 2008/02/15
Its also reported in this site
http://blog.sinohosting.net/
beware-of-chinese-domain-names-fraud/
I don't care if Barbara is one of them or not. Barbara said "...we should protect our brand and domain name,and register them as soon as possible." Do so if you think its necessary, but
for whatever sake, register your domain name through company with good reputation, well established one, NOT, and NEVER through this stupid one
Email: byron.ke@dnrcenter.org
website: www.asiadnr.org
This is about 'fair play'. I in the past searched the Asia domain names looking to see what was available until I came across one named all.com.
I then pre-booked it and gave details of how to collect monies from my credit card.
I next waited and received a standard letter stating that if they had a number of applicants there would be an auction. I waited for a notification of that paprticular event nothing happened. In the meantime all the other that I had pre-booked and not paid for lay on the account waiting.
In the meantime I patiently waited but heard nothing until I recently went to my regular damain name provider goDaddy where I was shocked to see them seling .Asia domains not at nearly 100 USD but 20 USD and when I checked the 'who's got what domain' all the pre-booked domains they I had pre-booked were allocated. In fact the all.asia was allocated on the 3rd March.
So what am I left with a credit of my money not in cash but to my account - which still does not appear - for which I can purchase a domain name at a grossly inflated price.
Is this 'fair play' I fear not - I wonder how many others have had the same expeience to a far greater extent !!!!!!!
Dr. Graham
Thank you for the post as it has stopped me from taking action otherwise I would have fallen prey
Glad we could help you from being taken in by these people. I have not gotten a message from them in quite a while despite the fact that we own over 1,000 domains. Perhaps they have blacklisted my email address...!
I would love to get more messages from them since I will post them here for all to see.
Still happening. I received this one:
From: shayne [mailto:shayne@asiaregistrar.org]
Sent: 16 September 2008 10:26 AM
To: pretoria
Subject: productionprojects dispute of domain name
Dear Manager,
Asia Network is the company of internet services that the domain registration is one of the major online style of our service range.Now we have something need to confirm with you.We hope you to cooperate with us.On 2008-09-16,we received an application from one person named “Karl Fischer” who wants to register some domains(productionprojects.in productionprojects.asia productionprojects.eu productionprojects.de )and internet brand(productionprojects).According to our investigation,we found that domain names have relevance to your company’s name and trademark,so we send this email for you to confirm it.We are dealing with this affair in these days,so we wish to get the confirmation and the assent of your company.If Karl Fischer doesn’t belong to your company and you don’t authorize him to register these domains,Pls contact with me asap in order to prevent some guy from abusing your trademarks and the company names.
In addition,I must declare that we have time limited for one person or one company’s registration.It is just 15 days.If your company has no response to us within the dispute period,we will unconditionally authorized the application of Karl Fischer.In order to deal with this issue better,please let someone who is responsible for trademark or domain name contact me asap.Thank you for your cooperate.
Best Regards,
Shayne sue
Sponsoring Registrar:
Asia Network
Add:UNITS A&B 15/F NEICH TOWER 128 GLOUCESTER RD WANCHAI, HK
Tel: 852 3118 1808
Fax: + 852 3187 5548 +852 3065 8189
Email:shayne@asiaregistrar.org
Website: www.asiaregistrar.org
Thanks for your comment. I think this may be a different company and I have posted about them last week. The more people we tell about this the sooner they will stop, I hope. I wish the national media would pick up on the story so it gets out there quicker...!
Thank you,
Chris
Hi "Barbara"! 你的英文不太好。你应该实践。 (trans: Your English isn't very good. Work on it.)
My company just got the 'Karl Fischer' version of the email for the second time in three months. Scam. Plus, utterly fake as we have already registered all the domains noted in the email.
And another one:
From: Lisa Ke [mailto:lisa@asianetworks.asia]
Sent: 08 October 2008 03:03
To: busdev
Subject: cif dispute of domain name
Dear Manager,
Asia Network is the company of internet services that the domain registration is one of the major online styles of our service range. Now we have something need to confirm with you. We hope you to cooperate with us. On 2008-10-08, we received an application from one person named “John Alldis” who wants to register some domains(cif.sg)and internet brand(cif). According to our investigation, we found that domain names have relevance to your company’s name and trademark, so we send this email for you to confirm it. We are dealing with this affair in these days, so we wish to get the confirmation and the assent of your company. If John Alldis doesn’t belong to your company and you don’t authorize him to register these domains, Pls contact with me asap in order to prevent some guy from abusing your trademarks and the company names.
In addition, I must state that we have time limited for one person or one company’s registration. It is just 15 days. If your company files doesn't resent within the time limited. We will unconditionally authorized the application of John Alldis.In order to deal with this issue better,please let someone who is responsible for trademark or domain name contact me as soon as possible.Thank you for your cooperate.
Best Regards
Lisa Ke
Sponsoring Registrar:
Asia Network
Add: UNITS A&B 15/F NEICH TOWER 128 GLOUCESTER RD WANCHAI,HK
Tel: +852 3118 1808
Fax: +852 3187 5548 +852 3065 8189
Email: lisa@asianetworks.asia
Website: www.asianetworks.asia
Here is the one I received today. Thank you for this blog
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Fra: Janes Hu [mailto:janes@asianetworks.asia]
Sendt: on 08.10.2008 09:40
Til:
Emne: dispute of domain name
Dear manager,
Asia Network is the company of internet services that the domain registration is one of the major online style of our service range. Now we have something need to confirm with you. We hope you to cooperate with us. On October,7th, 2008, we received an application from one person named “John Alldis” who wants to register some domains and internet brand.
1.domain name
2.internet brand
According to our investigation, we found that domain names have relevance to your company’s name and trademark, so we send this email for you to confirm it. We are dealing with this affair in these days, so we wish to get the confirmation and the assent of your company. If John Alldis doesn’t belong to your company and you don’t authorize him to register these domains, Pls contact with me asap in order to prevent some guy from abusing your trademarks and the company names.
In addition, I must state that we have time limited for one person or one company’s registration. It is just 15 days. If your company files doesn't resent within the time limited. We will unconditionally authorized the application of John Alldis. In order to deal with this issue better,please let someone who is responsible for trademark or domain name contact me asap.Thank you for your cooperate
Best Regards,
Janes Hu
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Sponsoring Registrar:
Asia Network
Add:UNITS A&B 15/F NEICH TOWER 128 GLOUCESTER RD WANCHAI,HK
Tel: +852 3118 1808
Fax: +852 3187 5548 +852 3065 8189
Email:Janes@asianetworks.aisa
Website: www.asianetworks.aisa
Hi all, came accross this while researching a similar email i got.
A different company, so thought i'd post this as well to raise awareness.
Website: http://www.oneeasy.asia
Email: Shirley.wu@skbyte.com and Shirley.wu@woneasy.com
[this comment has been updated to correct some errors on my part.]
Hi Chere,
Thank you so much for posting about them. From what I can tell this is just the same company using a different domain, company name, and web site. Yes, I just found some more information that seems to confirm that they are the same outfit:
Domain ID:D926580-ASIA
Domain Name: ONEEASY.ASIA
Domain Create Date:11-Jun-2008 12:30:04 UTC
Domain Expiration Date:11-Jun-2009 12:30:04 UTC
Domain Last Updated Date:10-Aug-2008 20:51:05 UTC
Created by:Todaynic.com Inc. R73-ASIA (697)
Last Updated by Registrar:ASIA Registry R6-ASIA (9996)
Sponsoring Registrar:Todaynic.com Inc. R73-ASIA (697)
Registration Agent E-mail: info@netadviser.cn
Domain Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:TOD-18508009
Registrant Name:one net technology limited
Registrant Organization:one net technology limited
Registrant Address:XiangGangZhongHuanDeFuDaoZhong121HaoYuanDongFaZhanDaXia20Lou
Registrant City:hk
Registrant State/Province:HK
Registrant Country/Economy:CN
Registrant Postal Code:300336
Registrant Phone:+852.31771510
Registrant FAX:+852.31771510
Registrant E-mail: info@netadviser.cn
Administrative ID:TOD-18508010
Administrative Name:one net technology limited
Administrative Organization:one net technology limited
Administrative Address:XiangGangZhongHuanDeFuDaoZhong121HaoYuanDongFaZhanDaXia20Lou
Administrative City:hk
Administrative State/Province:HK
Administrative Country/Economy:CN
Administrative Postal Code:300336
Administrative Phone:+852.31771510
Administrative FAX:+852.31771510
Administrative E-mail: info@netadviser.cn
Technical ID:TOD-18508010
Technical Name:one net technology limited
Technical Organization:one net technology limited
Technical Address:XiangGangZhongHuanDeFuDaoZhong121HaoYuanDongFaZhanDaXia20Lou
Technical City:hk
Technical State/Province:HK
Technical Country/Economy:CN
Technical Postal Code:300336
Technical Phone:+852.31771510
Technical FAX:+852.31771510
Technical E-mail: info@netadviser.cn
Billing ID:TOD-18508010
Billing Name:one net technology limited
Billing Organization:one net technology limited
Billing Address:XiangGangZhongHuanDeFuDaoZhong121HaoYuanDongFaZhanDaXia20Lou
Billing City:hk
Billing State/Province:HK
Billing Country/Economy:CN
Billing Postal Code:300336
Billing Phone:+852.31771510
Billing FAX:+852.31771510
CED ID:TOD-18508010
Nameservers:NS8.01ISP.NET
Nameservers:NS7.01ISP.COM
Their site has pretty much the same information that they have on their other sites:
"OneNet Technology Limited (short for OneNet) is one of the professional Internet consultant companies which is authorized . We are specialize in Network counseling, service, Network application & implement service. It involves brand name construction, Network brand name distribution, information consultant, planning project of Network brand name, exploitation, service etc.
With the flourish development of the Internet worldwide and spread in every field with our daily life and working, Internet will become one of the most common communication tools and mediums for people in the future. Large number of companies start to expand their business via Internet, from the actual to Internet, Then the war of disputing property right of Network starts.
OneNet works with every international organization, Adhering to the company principle of "protect and support precious resource of OneNet brand" ,We are sincerely looking forward to cooperate with you for solving the problem about grabbing trademark registration .Meanwhile, We also appeal large enterprises on paying attention seriously to grab trademark registration. Build your own brand showed on Internet under your own resound trademark soon. It will protect the salience character of your OneNet brand, exert function of your OneNet brand information fully ,reduce unnecessary economic dissension, avoid possible loss."
If they have sent you a message that is different from what we have already published, please send me a copy and I will post it, or you can post it as a comment. The more information we post about these guys the more people will find out about their scam and avoid being taken. I can't believe that ICANN allows them to contine to do this after all this time...!!!
Also, this looks like it maybe an operation connected with Todaynic.com. If anyone has information that it is, please let me know. They have been spamming a number of the forums to promote their domain registration business, but I have not seen any signs that they were a part of this scam until today. If I can get some proof I will post about it.
Thank you,
Chris
Hi, I'm adding this one for search-engine indexing. If you've arrived straight to this comment, then take no action. Do NOT reply to these scammers. As others have said above, if you must, then register the domain with a reputable domain registrar, not rip--off merchants like asiaregsitrar.org.
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Dear domain,
We received a formal application from a person who is called John Alldis is applying to register "domain" as their domain names and Internet brand in Hong Kong and also in Asia on Oct 27, 2008. During our auditing procedure we find out that the alleged John Alldis has no trade mark, brand nor patent even similar to that word. As authorized anti-cybersquatting organization we hereby suspect the alleged John Alldis to be a domain or trademark grabber. Hence we need you confirmation for two things, First of all, whether this alleged John Alldis is your business partner or distributor in Asia.
Secondly, whether you are interested in registering these domains and internet brand instead of that alleged person.(The alleged John Alldis will be entitled to obtain a domain not needed by original trademark owner.)
If you are not in charge of this please forward this email to appropriate dept.
This is a letter for confirmation. If the mentioned third party is your business partner or distributor in Asia, please DO NOT reply. We will automatically confirm application from your business partner after this audit procedure.
Best Regards
Sara Fu
Registration Commissioner
Sponsoring Registrar:Asia Network
Add:UNITS A&B 15/F NEICH TOWER 128 GLOUCESTER RD WANCHAI, HK
Tel:+(852)3118 1808
Fax:+(852)3065 8189
Email: sara@asianetworks.org
Website: www.asianetworks.org"
These people are out and out scammers. Do not give them any of your business. You won't even get what you think you've paid for.
Thanks for the comments!
If you want to share your story, send me an email with a copy of the spam and I will make a new blog post about it. For some reason people are finding this blog, and not the blogs we have on the topics of spam and domain names. The most posts that are made about this problem the more likely that people are going to be warned. :-)
(hris
This is here for search engines. Read these posts and decide for yourself. I choose not to respond.
Dear CEO:
We are a domain name registration service company in asia,which mainly deal with international company's domain business in Asia.We have something important to confirm with your company.On the October 30th, 2008, we received an application formally.One company named "kendon Company" wanted to register "qualitycorepins" as internet brand and ".CN/.ASIA" domain names.
During our checking procedure we find out that the alleged "kendon Company" has neither trademark, Intellectual property, nor patent related to this keyword. we find that the keywords and domain names applied for registration are the same as your company’s name and trademark. we need you to confirm:
whether this alleged "kendon Company" is your business partner or distributor in Asia.
if so, we will complete their registration.These days we are dealing with it.If you are not in charge of this please transfer this email to appropriate dept.In order to deal with this issue better,please let your supervisor for trademark or domain name contact me as soon as possible.
Best Regards
Peter Wu
Checking Department Manager
Tel:+86-0513-8011 8536
Fax:+86-0513-8011 8539
WebSite:www.global-dns.cn
Hey, (hris,
Thanks for the blog post! It was one of the top results when I decided to do a little digging (I'm just paranoid like that).
Our company received an e-mail with basically the same verbiage, however, it was from an Andy Zhang @ www.87global.hk, and the company inquiring was a "Sefar Soft Inc." Why they would want a study abroad domain is beyond me, and a Google result of the company name itself revealed someone else with a similar complaint as my own.
To keep them from being able to take action (they wanted us to respond within 2 days, afterall), I informed our Webmaster to respond to them thanking the company for informing us on the inquiry and that we would contact our own domain host as we have a current working relationship.
I should be able to tell you if it is an automated message if they respond to our e-mail.
By the by... It's QUITE hilarious that the company has a backup to "dispute your claim" over a blogger.com blog. How is it "possible you or your friends also are running the Asia domain regsiter business"? You warned people not to do it. You also told them to use a respected company (GoDaddy for $10-$20?). That's not an action of someone working for one of those Asian companies. If the claim were true, you would merely say "Come to such-and-such company, as we have lower prices".
Yes, it is incredibly important to secure your branding. Domain scams play on this importance and exploit it to make money. "Security" is just another hot word that gets our American blood boiling.
Hi,
Thanks for your update! I have not seen any new messages from these guys, but they may have blocked my contact information that shows up for my 1,500+ domains. It's nice to know people are checking them out first and finding this information. I feel sorry for all those that are taken in by it...!
We are set up as a domain reseller, but I am the only customer. :-)
What worries me is that there are business owners out there, supposedly dealing with (and no doubt scrutinising) their tax bills, invoices, receipts, oh, and hopefully keeping on top of what's happening in the world re their particular business interest.
But then they receive an email like this and act upon it without researching it first!
Asia's economy is expanding rapidly and without fear - and as in past times, whenever the economy boils like a cauldron, there are those who set out to scold.
If your company is founded on good principles, your customers should know your domain name through the excellence of your PR.
Afterall, if you're address is:
177 High Street
Anytown
Any County
Any Country
and you come across someone with the address:
177 High Street
Some Other Town
Any County
Any Country
Are you going to buy up that property just to make sure your customers don't get confused?
Obviously not.
Would you 'buy' all the telephone numbers similar to yours in case people get confused.
Obviously not.
So please, keep this in perspective - do your research and don't simply respond there and then to unsolicited emails that have the scammer's thumbprint on them!
By the way, mine came from:
SK Holdings Company Ltd
Tel:00852-9566 0253
Fax:00852-8125 7328
Email:tina@sknet.hk
Website: http://www.sk-holdings.net
(hris,
2 things: First, you'll laugh because one alex.tao@chooke.cn sent me ANOTHER e-mail not 2 weeks after I just mentioned the last one. To a different e-mail address, one that is Hostmaster, rather than Webmaster. Guess they assumed it'd be a different person.
Second: Your site has been flagged as spam. Looks like it's opened up a Trojan at some point and infected either another person or website. You may want to look into it.
Thanks, but *Where* has my site has been flagged as spam? I just checked my listing in Google and it did not indicate there was a problem like they do with some sites.
Thanks,
(hris
Thanks for publishing this stuff, it saved me a lot of trouble.
Here's one more:
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From: Vala Yuan
To: info@[our domain].com
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 5:13 PM
Subject: Notice of disputing domain name in China
(If you are NOT CEO,please forward this to your CEO, because this is urgent.Thanks.)
Dear CEO,
We are the department of registration service in China. we have something need to confirm with you. We formally received an application on November 13, 2008, One company which self-styled "RSI Soft Inc." are applying to register "[our domain]" as internet brand and CN domain names as below :
[our domain].asia
[our domain].cn
[our domain].com.cn
[our domain].com.tw
[our domain].hk
[our domain].in
[our domain].net.cn
[our domain].org.cn
[our domain].tw
After our initial examination, we found that the internet brand applied for registration are as same as your company’s name and trademark. Now we are dealing with it, hope to get the affirmation from your company. If your company and this"RSI Soft Inc"as the same company,there is no need reply to us,We will accept their application and will register those for them immediately.
If your company has no relationships with that company nor do not authorized,please reply to us within 7 workdays,if we can't get any final decision from yours over 7 workdays,we will unconditionally approve the application submitted by “ RSI Soft Inc".
Thanks for your cooperation.
Best Regards,
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Vala Yuan
Senior Consultant
( Tel: +0085-2-3178-1989 ( Fax: +0085-2-3175-8227
Website: http://www.87global.hk
Address:5/F,Max share Centre,373 King's Road North Point, Hongkong
__________________________________
Just received an email that's similar; I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same company just operating under a new name.
Am posting the email in its entirely below (with some parts redacted) for future reference.
I'm really surprised to realize that this has been going on for a year already. Thanks for keeping this blogpost up.
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Dear Sir/Madam,
We are Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited which is the domain name register center in Asia. We received a formal application from a company who is applying to register “___” as their domain name and Internet keyword on Dec 4, 2008.
Because this involves your company name or trade mark so we inform you in no time.
If you consider these domain names and internet keyword are important to you and it is necessary to protect them by registering them first, contact us soon.
Kind Regards,
Walt.liu
Tel:+ 852-3175xxxx;ext.8051
Fax: +852-3175xxxx
Email: walt.xxx@hknetwork.hk.cn
Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited
Website: www.hknsc.hk
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